[00:00:00] Dex: Hi everyone. My name's Dex Randall, and this is the Burnout Recovery Podcast where I teach professionals to recover from burnout and get back to passion and reward at work.

[00:00:23] Hello my friends. This is Dex, and today I'm really delighted to welcome our special guest, Henning R. Jensen, to talk about quantum physics, what it is and why we should care. Henning is a Master of Science in Electrical Engineering and a Carnegie Mellon certified enterprise architect with 28 years experience in I.T. and business development. He's a bestselling author and popular speaker in Denmark, known for making complex science accessible and practical, which is why he's here. His book, You Create Your Life, Quantum Physics Explains How, has sold over 18,000 copies, which he assures me is a bestseller in Denmark.

[00:01:05] And he has delivered, sold out talks to 25,000 people, featured on Danish TV and podcasts, and he also runs workshops internationally. He will shortly explain to you, dear listener. how quantum physics reveals our power to shape life from the inside out. He also shows how, by understanding some of the design patterns the universe is built on, we can more easily create the life we truly want.

[00:01:34] His message is simple, yet profound. We are part of an intelligent universe and we have far greater influence over our lives than we typically realize.

[00:01:45] Hello and welcome, Henning. How are you today? Thank you so much. I'm great here. And then Copenhagen. And thank you for inviting me. 

[00:01:54] It's a pleasure.

[00:01:55] Thank you for coming on. How is Copenhagen this morning? 

[00:01:58] Henning: It's sunny and nice here. 8:00 AM in the morning. We are in the summertime. Yeah, that's great. 

[00:02:05] Dex: I don't know why, but I looked at your weather and it's quite similar to ours at the moment, temperature wise. 

[00:02:11] Henning: Yeah, it's doesn't get that warm here in Denmark.

[00:02:13] That's right.

[00:02:15] Dex: Hope you've had a good breakfast then. And just for those listeners, in case you wonder about my connection with Henning, I tracked him down because I as well have a burning interest in the quantum and how would you connect to en enhance our lives? And my interest was initially sparked by Dr. Joe Dispenza, who tells a very compelling story about healing from spinal injury meditating on healing, connecting with the principles of quantum physics. And I also subscribe to the Buddhist philosophy that everything is energy, empty of a separate self. And naturally I think quantum physics is actually a quite a good fit into my coaching practice, as a tool that you can use for empowerment.

[00:02:58] So I really wanted to bring a guest onto the podcast who can explain in simple terms a few quantum concepts, that you may or may not have come across, that might help you in your journey of burnout recovery as they've helped me. And in particular, I think it addresses the perceived helplessness aspect of burnout.

[00:03:22] So if you enjoy what you hear today, we'll come back to his book at the end. But let's crack on. Let's get into his zone of genius. 

[00:03:31] Henning: Yeah. What I'd like to talk about firstly is that how is the universe actually built. So we know from quantum physics that everything is made of energy.

[00:03:40] Quantum physics that's the best model we have for this universe. So it explains far more in detail than what Newton was able at explaining back in 1600. So 1920, the Danish guy Neils Bohr and Einstein came up with a model of quantum physics that really explains how this universe is built.

[00:03:58] We have a building block that's called an atom, and it has a nuclei, right? And it has an electron, and it spins like the sun and the earth. So that's the pattern, that's the building block we have. And the funny thing is when we look into a nuclei -the proton, right?

[00:04:14] There's nothing there. So when scientists, they open up an electron or a proton, there's nothing there. The only way that we can actually find out that there is something here is that when we think about a tornado that's going across the American prairie, the only way that we can see it is because it takes up dust.

[00:04:33] So we can actually see it. And we know when we are driving on the American prairie, we won't drive towards us a tornado 'cause it will actually swirl us around, right? So we cannot penetrate it. So think about a tornado going through a clean room.

[00:04:48] You won't see it because it doesn't take up any dust. So that's the same thing when my hand touches this table, my hand cannot penetrate the table because the table is built up of these atoms, right? And they are actually just energy vortexes.

[00:05:04] So there's no such thing as solid matter. Solid matter is just what we perceive things to be. There's no solid matter, only energy. Everything actually has a resonance frequency, a frequency that they resonate at. An opera singer, she can sing a tone and shatter a wine glass, because she matches the resonance frequency of that glass. If I am at the beach, you cannot throw two pebbles in the water and those waves will not interfere. They will have an effect on each other.

[00:05:34] Since everything is energy, when I have a thought, I will send out an electromagnetic wave. When I have a feeling, that creates a field around me because Hans Christian Orsted taught us back in the 1850s, that when there's a current running, you create a field and there's a lot of current running inside of us because that's how our cells communicate.

[00:05:58] We have billions of cells, they use electromagnetic communication. So an electromagnetic wave is a wave that comes with information. So all these cells, they talk together and that makes this current running inside of us.

[00:06:11] We have a field around us and people are able to feel that. When you walk into a room, you can feel that energy and you feel a you a harmony, right? Or you can feel that somebody is sad even without looking at their face. Because the energy we sent out is actually where we can feel, right?

[00:06:29] We can now measure that everything is made of energy. And that energy actually has a profound impact on ourselves and the environment.

[00:06:35] So both this electrical field, but also the thoughts that we have, the way we perceive the world will actually emit hormones out to the body. So that means that when I am with people that I love, serotonin and oxytocin will be released. And that nourishes our body so we can actually grow and and keep our body well.

[00:06:56] But when we are in stress, we release cortisol and that squeezes the blood, so it will go to the arms and legs. And this is a pretty cool design because if you have to fight or flight, then you need all the blood in your arms and legs, right?

[00:07:11] So the design is pretty cool. But if we're going through a long period of stress, cortisol is in our body. So that means that we won't nourish this area in the middle here, where we have all our organs and 98% of our cells are replaced within seven years. That includes our bones. So if we don't provide the nourishment they need, they won't replace . Cells die all the time. Our skin cells die and they fall off, right?

[00:07:39] And we get new skin cells. And they need that nourishment from the blood. So it's very important to take time to do the things we love , be with the people we love right? Because when we hug somebody, we actually release oxytocin into the body and we can measure dopamine and serotonin, the good hormones that we release when we are doing the things we love.

[00:07:59] The way we feel has a profound impact on our health. That includes this electrical field we have around us because the communication between the cells is like a school of fish, right? They act together.

[00:08:12] Our cells is acting together in the same way they communicate just like the school of fish will navigate. Does that make sense?

[00:08:20] Dex: Yes, there was quite a lot to absorb all in one block. It made sense. You went into a lot of different directions there that I wasn't expecting, but the piece that fascinated me was about the blood going to the extremities instead of your heart. And under chronic stress, that would be very debilitating over time.

[00:08:40] I'd never really thought about it that way with the arms and legs. 

[00:08:43] Henning: No. Okay. But if you're in front of a tiger, you have the most power, you run or you fight. It's just that when we use our bodies the way we do we push too far. We don't get rest and spend time with the ones we love, and that's where we actually regenerate.

[00:08:59] So that's why it's so important to to do the things we love to do. 

[00:09:03] Dex: So how are you tying this in with quantum physics then? 

[00:09:09] Henning: Okay these hormones released when we are with people we love. That's all the equipment that we have. All electronics are based on quantum physics.

[00:09:17] We wouldn't have any electronics at all if we didn't have quantum physics, because that's how these atoms work. So the reason we now can measure this is quantum physics. So Newton back in 16 hundreds he was a genius, right? He could tell when you shoot a bullet where it would land.

[00:09:35] But he was not aware of everything being energy. And that has an impact, just like the waves I was talking about. Waves will interfere. So when I send out a thought or a feeling, other people will actually feel that. Because just like the animals, we are able to take in information.

[00:09:50] All of our body can take in information. That's how, a herd of horses know that there's a dangerous situation coming up and then they will react. 

[00:10:00] Dex: I'm quite curious, since you're talking about feelings and emotions, how you got into this when you started off in I.T.? What was the connection for you? 

[00:10:10] Henning: The connection is that I've been working with I.T. for many years and I knew how a computer was working. I could set up all kinds of different systems, but I actually didn't know how much I'm working, what was the inside of me.

[00:10:21] So I looked into that and found out that we have a profound impact on our health and the life we're living. After my divorce back in 2016, I think now I'm not creating the life I wanted to create. So I had to make some changes and I had to find out if life is that intelligent, why don't we use that intelligence?

[00:10:41] We are part of it! The universe is just made of layers of energy, right? In each layer a proton or electron can exist. So just like when you're on a set of stairs, you can only be on the steps, right? You cannot stand within the steps. These particles can only exist in these layers. So the universe spins out of this. If you have a spider sitting in a spider web and there's a block coming, it'll make it vibrate.

[00:11:07] When I send out a thought or an emotion, I'll actually set this spider web in motion, these energy layers. So that's why the energy layer makes it possible for a particle to be created. And that's part of that cell living right here. And the people in front of me, they are part of that same layer, because that layer also creates a particle for them in their cell.

[00:11:29] It means that whenever we create a thought or a feeling, we will actually set this engine in motion create a vibration. And that's what other people feel, it is the energy that we send out that other people are able to register.

[00:11:43] Dex: So how have you worked with directing the kind of energy that you send out into this field? 

[00:11:52] Henning: I don't see myself as the body that I show up with, because in seven years, none of these cells will be with me.

[00:11:59] I know this energy layer will be there because if there's no energy around these cells, then there will be no body, the body will be dead. Because these atoms in my cells are just the same atoms as in the table that I'm standing at here. But the atoms that create my body, they're alive.

[00:12:16] I can move things right? It's the energy around the body that makes the body alive. Just like Einstein said, it's the field. It's the sole governing agency of the particle. So it's actually the energy that shapes matter, what we perceive as matter is actually shaped by the energy.

[00:12:36] Does that make sense? 

[00:12:38] Dex: Yes. But I'm wondering how, in that case, if you wanted to send out a particular kind of energy how would you create it? 

[00:12:45] Henning: I would focus on what I wanted to obtain, or what I wanted to do. I would focus on that in my mind because that's when I start sending out that energy, my focus will actually create what I want.

[00:12:59] We know that laser light has the same frequency in the same direction, so it can cut through metal. But the light from our lamp, is in every direction, a lot of frequencies. Laser light is focused and we can focus our attention, our energy and then we can start creating what we want.

[00:13:18] The way we perceive things and focus our energy is very important.

[00:13:22] If I take a magnet and let it go towards iron files. These iron files are in a random pattern, but before this magnet is touching these iron files, they will be in a beautiful shape, right? The biomagnetism shapes the iron files 'cause of the field around it. We have that same field around us.

[00:13:44] So we have an impact on our environment. The way we shape our environment depends on the energy field we have around us. 

[00:13:52] Dex: So how does that then work with collective intelligence, which you mentioned? 

[00:13:55] Henning: All living organisms, they start as one cell, right?

[00:13:58] And then they become multiple cells. The way they do this is by communicating. So when cells become many cells, they start communicating and then one would turn out to be the head and one would be the tail and so forth.

[00:14:12] So they communicate how to become a dog or how to become a tree. It's all the same. They have holograms, that's one of the design patterns this universe uses. They have a picture of their destination, so to speak.

[00:14:27] They're intelligent. They know how to create a dog by communicating. It's not just random that they end up as a dog, right? By communicating together they can form these organisms. And that's pretty amazing.

[00:14:41] What Michael Liven from Tufts University was recording was a planarian that was growing up.

[00:14:46] He would record how he created a head on that planarian. Then he would take another planarian and play what he recorded on the back of the planarian and it would have a head.

[00:14:56] So it had two heads now. So we know they communicate, they are aware of each other. They have a collective awareness and that's how they work together. If they don't have this communication, then the ion channel in that cell membrane is not working.

[00:15:12] That's blocked. Now, a cell that's not communicating with the other cells we'll think of it as being alone, right? So it will just eat from that environment, which its in, and that corresponds to what we call cancer cells. 'cause cancer cells don't have this ability to speak with the other cells.

[00:15:30] He found out, if re reintroduced this ion channel in the cell membrane, those cells come back and talk with the other cells again, and they will stop acting as cancer cells. So this intelligence is collective intelligence. That's for all organisms. That's how they operate together, by being able to communicate together. So, this collective intelligence, we are part of that, right? 

[00:15:54] Dex: Yeah. Everything must be part of it, but most of us would be unconscious of that. 

[00:16:00] Henning: Yeah, that's right.

[00:16:02] Dex: It's happening, but we don't know how we're doing it. Or how we are repelling or attracting or creating or not creating.

[00:16:09] Henning: Yeah. The best thing for me is I know how this universe uses holograms. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics tells us that every system has a energy field around it with the information about the system.

[00:16:23] So now a dog has a goal and knows how to become a dog because it has a picture of the end goal.

[00:16:29] When we create a picture of the end goal that we want in our lives, that's when we have the ability to create the emotion of being where we want to be. That's the strongest energy that we can create in our field. Then we are actually on our way to that goal.

[00:16:44] The most important thing to think in holograms because that's how the universe is working. That's one of the fundamental design patterns . Does that make sense?

[00:16:53] When a professional athlete would go through the fight or the run in his head, he would start creating that energy to compete the best way he can. Mentally, he will prepare himself. 

[00:17:05] Dex: The way I think about it is you are inhabiting this energy of the successful you in the future. And so you are pulling yourself towards that future. It's a bit like the gold medalists in the Olympics. They live with houses full of gold just so that they've got their world, their perception, their environment is full of gold things, so they're already in gold mindset before they go to competition.

[00:17:31] Henning: Yeah. I think that's very important that you focus your energy in that direction. 

[00:17:36] Dex: And I would use the same kind of technique in coaching where people are going from burnout to a much higher plane of existence and function they don't have access to when they're in burnout because they're very focused on the past and the negative stuff.

[00:17:50] They're entrenched in anxiety. So there's a visualization that takes them out of that head space and into the future and allows them to approach that future. 

[00:18:02] Henning: Yeah, that's right. Another thing that was a game changer for me is extrasensory perception.

[00:18:08] As an engineer, I like to take my decision on the best available data I can gather. Now, our subconsciousness, takes in information all the time, and we cannot process, this much information. So the information is stored within us and sometimes it's released to our brain. When we take our brain down to Delta and Theta brainwaves, we relax . We are not thinking, we are relaxing. Then, that information can be released to us.

[00:18:32] If you ever woke up in the morning and you're, oh, now I have a solution for that problem I haven't been able to solve for a long time. Our subconsciousness has worked on that problem. As soon as you relax your brain, you'll have that information.

[00:18:44] So for me to take the best decision is actually: does it feel right in my stomach? Does it feel right in my heart? Because that is a lot more information my subconscious is able to take in, in terms of what I can actually process in my frontal cortex, right?

[00:19:01] Dex: Talk to me then a bit about coherence, 'cause that seems to hook into this. 

[00:19:06] Henning: Yeah. Laser light is coherent light. It means that it is focused. So when you have a coherence between your brain and your heart, that's when you start creating coherence within your body.

[00:19:17] The frequency that the heart is providing to the rest of the body. If the brain is attuned to that frequency, you can start having a balance between your consciousness and your subconsciousness. And that's when you have the power to create what you want in your life. It's a matter of aligning these two.

[00:19:35] I can drive all the way to work without thinking about driving. My subconsciousness has driven it so many times. I'm thinking about the vacation we are going on or the problem I'll have to solve at work.

[00:19:47] The subconsciousness is working all the time, so we make sure that what's in our subconsciousness is actually going the way we want. Whatever trauma is laying within our subconsciousness can take us in directions we don't want.

[00:20:02] So when we figure out what traumas is within us, they can be released. We align our subconsciousness to go in the direction that we consciously want to go. 

[00:20:14] Dex: So talk a bit about that then. If we have negativity historically, if we've got some traumatic stuff, how do we actually release that?

[00:20:24] Henning: Sometimes we're not even aware of what's in our subconscious because it can be a trauma two or three years old. But when we become aware of it, you can handle it yourself.

[00:20:33] Sometimes you go to professionals and sometimes you can just talk to your friends about it. When we express our emotions they actually have less impact on us. So we won't react, we can release them. It is important to find out, how do I actually react?

[00:20:49] If I'm working I'm working at home, my son walks in and I start yelling at him because he's disturbing me. I don't want to act like that. So the next time he walks in, I stop myself and say, I'll be with you in two seconds.

[00:21:00] There was a program running in my subconscious. We can change those, so we only have the ones that we really wanna have, that are aligned with what we want consciously in our lives.

[00:21:10] Dex: So, when you're thinking about how perception shapes biology? 

[00:21:16] Henning: It's how I perceive the world that will create the hormones in my body. Two people can look at the same situation and one guy will be stressed out and the other one won't react.

[00:21:25] Our brain draws our knowledge and our beliefs and that creates, the hormones within us. The way you perceive the situation you're in ends up sending these hormones around.

[00:21:37] Is it gonna be cortisol or will it be dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin? That's why it's important how we see the world and when we change our knowledge and beliefs, we create a different picture.

[00:21:50] If I'm out on the countryside driving, I'll see a cow standing there. There'll be a sign and a tree. But there's nothing there. The picture of the cow, the sign and the tree, that's what I create in my head. My eyes take in all the energy and then my knowledge and my belief will run through the information and it'll create this picture in the back of my head.

[00:22:10] And that's what I see. So the cow, there's only energy. There's not a picture out there of a cow. The cow is only its energy, these building blocks. That's what builds everything in this universe. 

[00:22:22] Dex: Okay. So that idea really spins me out because when I think about seeing a cow, when I visualize what a cow looks like and everybody else will agree, yeah, that's a cow, but they might be seeing something completely different than I am.

[00:22:37] Henning: As a child, we were sitting in front of a book with our parents and they would say, this is a cow and this is a truck. So we learn these images and they're all frequencies that are interpreted by our brain.

[00:22:46] And then the brain actually pops up with a picture of that cow. 

[00:22:51] Dex: A map of the energy that we see, but there's no guarantee that energy map that we have is the same as anybody else's energy map of a cow. 

[00:22:59] Henning: Now, that's why they say two people cannot have the same experience looking at the same situation.

[00:23:06] Dex: But essentially, when we're talking about perception on biology, then what we're really saying is, I have a bunch of thoughts about what I perceive, and those thoughts create more hormones in my body. And the hormones are what direct my biology. 

[00:23:19] Henning: Yeah. It also creates your emotions. So there's nobody who can actually force an emotion on you.

[00:23:26] We all create our own emotions.

[00:23:28] Dex: We only create our own emotions by our perceptions and interpretation. 

[00:23:33] Henning: Yeah. So nobody can force an emotion on me. The way that I see the situation will produce an emotion within me.

[00:23:41] Dex: And your beliefs about that, your thoughts about it? Basically your interpretation of your perception.

[00:23:47] Yeah. Really three, I think there's three layers. There's something that happens out there, then we have a perception, then we have a belief or thought about that perception. Then that creates our hormonal and feeling response. 

[00:24:01] Henning: Yeah. 

[00:24:01] Dex: Which then has repercussions in our lives or our bodies. Yeah. 

[00:24:05] Henning: That's right.

[00:24:06] And if we have had a traumatic experience with a tent, for instance, then just seeing a tent being in a tent can traumatize us. But a friend who's never had a such an experience, he will, just relax being in a tent. So it's also what have we experienced beforehand, right? 

[00:24:22] Dex: So somebody who's had an accident with a tent, how would you suggest to them that they change their response?

[00:24:31] Henning: You can actually go to hypnosis. 'cause when you take your brain to delta and theta, and that's also when you go into sleep, you are in Delta and theater brainwaves, that's when you can actually communicate directly with your subconscious. So in so going through hypnosis and if you have a good harmonic relationship with that, the guy taking you into hypnosis, he can change that belief of the tent being a dangerous place to be.

[00:24:57] Or you can convince yourself by approaching a tent, staying in a tent during the day and stay one night maybe, and just see what can you do to feel safe about being in a tent.

[00:25:06] So you, there's different approaches but we definitely have different tools to to change our beliefs and how we see things. 

[00:25:15] Dex: Certainly in the example of a tent, we hold that inside ourselves. So I think what we're really scared of is ourselves and our own beliefs. 

[00:25:23] Henning: Yeah. Yeah. So we scare ourselves in that way.

[00:25:29] Dex: So what do you think happens then in the brain and the body when we shift our pers perspective? When we get into Delta Theater and we in a suggestible state. What happens then if we suddenly decide that tents are the best things we've ever seen? 

[00:25:45] Henning: Yeah, it's that the energy flows when we don't have trauma.

[00:25:49] When we are traumatized, that acts like a block. The energy needs to flow in our body, for the body to work properly. Eileen Cusick and Julie Spencer also found that trauma will block your energy in a certain area.

[00:26:02] When you think about energy flowing, if you have a standing wave, that will block that energy and be part of your energy system, your nervous system. So when we release that trauma, the energy flows again and we then get a different perspective of the situation.

[00:26:17] Dex: One of the risks of burnout and also behind burnout trauma would be, as you say, when we are in fight or flight and we've got those chemicals rushing around us, it debilitates some systems and promotes other systems in the body and mind. Yeah. If that's a chronic state, then you've either got chronic enhancement, which is good, or chronic debility, which is not quite so good.

[00:26:42] Henning: Yeah, 

[00:26:43] Dex: Then you're talking about replacing your body within seven years, if you have chronic stress and the blood never reaches certain parts of your body in a productive way, then the cost of chronic stress would be over the years, very expensive. 

[00:26:57] Henning: Yeah. Because the cells cannot regenerate in the way they should. So it'll have a physical impact on us. 

[00:27:05] Dex: Yeah. And I think there's quite a compelling reason in this society now where we have chronic stress and mental health problems and burnout that are so widespread. A lot of us would be well advised to learn some skills about redirecting that energy in a way that frees the blockages.

[00:27:26] Henning: Yeah. But I think that the most important thing that we can be aware of is that, do I actually take time to do the things that I love to do? Because when I do the things I love to do, that's when my body regenerates the most. So laughing with your best friends and skiing or surfing or whatever you love to do.

[00:27:45] When you do that's when you take care of your body because that's when it's actually given the hormones it needs to regenerate.

[00:27:52] So just laughing and, having a great time, that is so important for us because we release all the good stuff like serotonin, dopamine, oxytocin, and so forth.

[00:28:02] If we are keep pushing ourselves to do more and more 'cause we don't feel adequate or we keep having thoughts that we are not good enough. That's pretty hard on our physical body.

[00:28:14] We need to change that pattern. People say it's so difficult to change those negative thoughts about myself. But I think we need to be aware of them and just be happy for the body we are. We've been given such a fantastic body that can feel and we can enjoy life and we can actually explore life through this body.

[00:28:34] Dex: Do you associate any of that with meditation yourself? Yoga or those types of things? Do you use those to enhance your energy? 

[00:28:40] Henning: I do Qigong because that's actually taking care of my energy. So when we focus our energy, via Qigong or yoga or meditation, that's when we are nourishing our energy field.

[00:28:53] I play tennis and soccer because I love that. So we need to go through the fitness room and do workout to keep our muscles strong. But just as important to do the meditation or  Qigong or just walk in nature, because that also nourish our energy field.

[00:29:10] Dex: You and I were speaking before we came into the recording today about Bondi and going down there. That's my place for replenishing. I go down there and throw myself in the ocean every morning.

[00:29:20] Henning: Yeah. Antioxidants is providing electrons to our body.

[00:29:26] So eating all the green stuff will provide a healthy environment within. When you are in a alkaline environment within, the cells have a lot easier.

[00:29:36] And when you jump into the ocean the body will take in these electrons also just from walking barefoot on ground because the negative potential of earth.

[00:29:47] We exchange electrons with the with Earth.

[00:29:51] Dex: What does that do for us if we earth? 

[00:29:53] Henning: Inflammation is probably the biggest source of all illness.

[00:29:57] Inflammation is a lag of electrons. We need to make sure that we got a lot of electrons in our body. So when we eat all greens . When we touch the ground or go swimming, and sunlight will also provide this.

[00:30:10] You can measure somebody standing on grass or in the sand, you can see how the information actually diminishes. 

[00:30:19] Dex: Wow. 

[00:30:20] Henning: All living organisms, they have to communicate via electromagnetic information, right?

[00:30:27] Because all cells in a tree, on a dog, and a human being, need to communicate. Since there's a lot of electrons, also a lot of current running in the tree, it'll create a field just like the field around the mother earth, so there's a field around each tree.

[00:30:42] When you walk into the forest, you'll be part of that energy that they release. So if I have a stressed energy level, it'll actually be smoothed out by the energy of the forest. So nature is a profound way to relax. That's important. And I know you Australians are very good at that. 

[00:30:58] Dex: Yeah, tend to be, I love it myself. What do you think then about electromagnetic therapies? Like the mats you can get that have electromagnetic pulse fields .

[00:31:10] Henning: We have Wifi and different kinds of electromagnetic fields, EMF, they can put a pressure on, destructurize the field around us. So if we want to keep up a sound electromagnetic field, we walk into nature, right?

[00:31:25] We wanna make sure we have a strong magnetic field around us . 

[00:31:28] Whenever I go to sleep at night, I always turn off my Wifi.

[00:31:32] Dex: Does that mean for those people who might receive this electromagnetic therapy that it's useful or it's not useful?

[00:31:38] Henning: A lot of these fields, even sound can provide, because the vibration of the right tones, the right frequencies do help ourselves. 

[00:31:48] Dex: Yeah. Because you can use sound to bring you back into a gamma or delta or theta 

[00:31:53] Henning: Yeah. Into a harmonic state.

[00:31:55] Dex: So I'm just curious then, for my listeners who are obviously suffering, most of them, chronic stress, what would be your recommendations to them? 

[00:32:09] Henning: Every morning I start going out, standing on grass, on my lawn. And I drink water because I know getting sunlight and touching Earth will calm my body, will calm my nervous system.

[00:32:21] It's very important to be aware of what kind of thoughts am I thinking over and over, and also being out in nature to calm my nervous system, because part of being burned out is we have come out of balance in our electrical field.

[00:32:39] So if we can do what we really love to do, that's when we can gain the power that we have within. 

[00:32:47] Dex: The way that I work is in line with that, in retiring old beliefs that aren't serving them well, that aren't creating the life and the biology in them that they would like, and adopting a new set that are more in tune with what the heart wants.

[00:33:01] Henning: It's really important - is this the right thing to do for us or not? Because the brain cannot go through as much information as the heart. So what feels right in our stomach, or in our heart, it's the best decision.

[00:33:13] That's where we have the best ability to take the right decision. Our logical mind, is not capable. We know that a million times faster, you can take in information with your subconscious, your nervous system compared to your brain.

[00:33:26] So your brain is pretty good when you need to learn new stuff. Repetition is the way you talk to your subconscious .

[00:33:32] Start thinking positively about yourself and start loving yourself will actually create that emotion. It will be the way you think about yourself. Make those changes will actually take us into that state where we feel in harmony.

[00:33:47] Dex: Yeah. We don't really get that from our minds, but I think these days we've got an over-reliance on our minds and our analytical process, because for most of us, that's what earns us money. 

[00:33:59] Henning: That's right. That's right. 

[00:34:01] Dex: Not our hearts so much. 

[00:34:03] Henning: No. But the funny thing is, the right brain hemisphere is actually controlling the left side of the body, connected to the heart. The heart will send more information to the brain than the brain sends to the heart.

[00:34:16] At the Heart Math Institute in California, they have measured how this communication affects our whole system.

[00:34:22] When we meditate or do Qigong or whatever actually gets us into these Delta, Theta, we create a stronger connection from our brain to our heart.

[00:34:30] Dex: I think the argument you're making is we have to return to being human.

[00:34:35] We disregard a lot of the energetics of being human. When we're over analytical, we think our brain is everything. Yeah. Then we forget, disregard or don't connect with the energy fields of our planet, our surroundings and of ourselves. We've forgotten about them.

[00:34:55] Henning: The heart has receptors, and they have a lot more receptors to this energy field that I'm talking about. So when you think about these layers of energy that builds up our universe.

[00:35:05] It's like thinking about a spider web. Our heart has more connections to this energy field than our brain has. It's like an animal, they know that something is coming up. Some animals can know in advance that the it is gonna rain or something. It feels its environment.

[00:35:22] I think we need to be aware, change our perception. When we change our perception, we change the hormones, the chemicals within us. So if I, have a perception that it stresses me at work, because there's so many things I need to do, if I can change that perception and do one task at a time, then it'll have an effect on my body.

[00:35:44] I'm not saying it's easy, but we are capable of changing our perception.

[00:35:49] Dex: I really like the way that you express that. I've always thought about it in terms of thoughts and emotions, beliefs and history. But when you present it as we have perceptions about the world and that controls our hormones, and then we are at the effect of our hormones, I think that's quite a direct, easy way to understand it. 

[00:36:11] Henning: Yeah. Thanks. That's good. Because we end up in the amygdala.

[00:36:15] So that part of the brain is where we need to survive, back in when we were gatherers.

[00:36:20] But that's not how we work these days. We need to have focus. When we are stressed, we act less intelligent. Because we end up in the amygdala and not in our prefrontal cortex. 

[00:36:32] Dex: Yeah, that's true. Wow. That's been a pretty exciting adventure speaking with you and hearing those ideas expressed in that way, I think you make a very compelling argument. And to some extent I think it will change the way that I speak about that energy with my clients. I spend a lot of time trying to support my clients in returning to their hearts.

[00:36:57] And what really matters in life, not putting all their energy into work stress. 

[00:37:03] Henning: Yeah. 

[00:37:04] Dex: But you framed it in a way that I find quite interesting. Was something that you wish I'd asked you today that I didn't ask you so far? 

[00:37:10] Henning: Look, what I think is really important is that we learn to use this extrasensory perception.

[00:37:16] We have our five senses, right? But we have an extra sensory perception. Being aware of what does a given situation give us in terms of emotion, how does it feel within us. Yeah. So even Dean Radin has worked with the American military for many years with this. You have millions of cells registered on what is the environment we're in. You can live in synchronicity, if you're taking in this information. So you don't have to work as hard to get your goal because everything aligns to where you're at. Sometimes we believe that our brains the best way to follow, but it's actually the whole system we need to take into consideration when we make a decision.

[00:37:56] Dex: I think everybody has that ability, but we've had it trained out of us to notice it or trust it or pay attention to it or act from it.

[00:38:05] Henning: Yeah. We've learned that we had to follow our prefrontal cortex and our consciousness but it's the whole system that we need to listen and pay attention to. We have that ability, but if we haven't used it for a while, we might learn how to register what are we actually feeling in a given situation.

[00:38:21] Dex: Yeah. A lot of people in burnout are so numb they wouldn't know what emotion they were having. Even if you ask them.

[00:38:26] Do you have any last words for us that you'd like to add? 

[00:38:29] Henning: Yeah, thank you. We should remind ourselves that we actually been part of this intelligence, this is an intelligent universe, and we have that intelligence spilled within.

[00:38:40] So we can make use of that, by making sure that we take the emotions and feelings that pops up in us and use that. How does it feel when you do things and do you actually do the things you love to do? 

[00:38:54] Dex: Instead of running away from our emotions with our hair on fire, you mean?

[00:38:59] Henning: Yeah, that's right. 

[00:39:01] Dex: Alright, that's what we've got time for today. Thank you so much for being here. You've been a terrific guest. It's been very illuminating listening to you today.

[00:39:10] Henning: Thank you, Dex. It's been a pleasure talking to you 

[00:39:14] Dex: I'm going to promote your book in the show notes.

[00:39:16] If anybody is interested in reading that book, you can get it on Amazon. But don't forget to see Henning's other links, which I'll also put in the show notes if you would like to hear more from him.

[00:39:28] And if you have enjoyed today's show, please rate and review the podcast and share it with your friends.

[00:39:34] And if you are in burnout and your emotions are a little bit subterranean and buried, come and talk to me about how to recover with coaching and a little bit of quantum help and get back to your best performance, leadership and most of all, enjoyment, inside work and out.

[00:39:51] Thank you for listening today and tune in next week.

[00:39:53] We're gonna talk about neuroscience and burnout as a follow up to this one.